Why endorse Dealstream?
Alec Hogg responds to a reader who asks why Moneyweb used the disgraced Russell Leigh as a market commentator.
28 September 2008 13:33Dear Alec
I remember you had Mr Russell Leigh of Dealstream as a market commentator on Moneyweb.
Now this man is being pursued by the police.
Did Moneyweb not also carry ads for Dealstream?
On Moneyweb (radio SAFM) a day or two ago, your commentators say WITH HINDSIGHT how could anyone have even considered dealing with this SA company Dealstream because it was not connected to (governed by) the Financial Services Board.
Therefore why did Moneyweb deal with this company? Simply having Mr Leigh on your programme lended credibility to Dealstream in the minds of listeners.
At least ensure that all your SA market commentators are from companies governed by the Financial Services Board.
Otherwise have them in their individual capacity with their personal opinion (make this clear) and do not mention their company or business interests at all (like your local gold expert). Ie, do not allow the promotion of any investment company in SA which is not connected to the Financial Services Board on Moneyweb by having someone as an expert commentator on your programme.
I am completely unaffected by companies like Dealstream, because in 1995 I decided to invest in shares directly. There was still the trading floor then and sometimes it took one or two weeks to get my tiny order dealt with. Now I can see my tiny order on the screen at home on the computer along with all the big orders or if I buy at the market price I have my shares in a split second. All the information I would ever want about a company is at my fingertips. In 1995 I would never have imagined it could be like this. I am not a trader, I buy for long term and the dividends. I sell just for cleaning up /or shares I paid too much for like the Investec I bought at R70 when it was a "screaming buy", well I got more down to R45, so the "R70" ones may have to go one day hopefully for just a tiny profit and some dividends paid.
Thanks for the programme.
Christopher Iveson
Dear Christopher,
Thanks for the mail which I picked up this morning on my return from a short break.
The Dealstream debacle happened while I was away so still need to familiarise myself about what actually went on. But you correctly point out that we did have Russell Leigh as a commentator from time to time, and that Dealstream was also an advertiser on Moneyweb.
My due diligence process was to check out Mr Leigh's partners and his background in the financial services field. On the first point, the shareholders in Dealstream were himself, Ernst & Young and the Industrial Development Corporation. One might easily presume, as I did, that these high profile organisations wouldn't associate themselves much less invest in a business without absolutely checking the credentials of its principal.
On the second point, Mr Leigh was a returning South African who had worked at and traded for some big international investment banks.
Given developments of the past couple of weeks this is no longer an automatic tick, but things were very different a couple of years back when Dealstream launched.
In my dealings with Mr Leigh he struck me as highly intelligent and innovative - a smart young man who had learnt his trade abroad and was bringing it back to South Africa to serve the local sector. There is no doubt that his software offering was also world class. His appreciation of the complex world of using single-stock futures to structure ways in which directors of companies could unlock the value in their shareholdings was also impressive.
What went wrong between his credible start and the disaster which unfolded in the past coupe of weeks is a reminder of the fallibility of human beings - and that when it comes to managing money, you can never be too careful.
Like you, we at Moneyweb look forward to discovering exactly what happened at Dealstream that caused the change in Mr Leigh, a man with a young family who has suddenly become unemployable. Be assured we'll be doing our best to provide all the information as it emerges.
Regards,
Alec
COMMENTS
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| Fin24.com At one stage you couldn't browse on Fin24 without running into a Dealstream pop-up. Maybe Koos can refund your cash deposits. by klip on September 28 2008, 15:09 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| Dealstream, Fidentia,,etc The problem is that small things are overlooked/forgiven without prosecution and before anyone opens their eyes the monster has grown beyond a mere oversight. The gap has been found and taken....... New Yorks broken windows my boet. by Piet Pompies on September 28 2008, 17:39 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| New York windows reference. Fyi SSRN-Broken Windows: New Evidence from New York City and a Five ...14 Jun 2005 ... Keywords: broken windows theory, broken windows policing, New York City, policing, zero-tolerance, MTO, Moving To Oppportunity, disorder and ... papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=743284 - Similar pages by BE HARCOURT - 2006 - Cited by 24 - Related articles - All 4 versions . .less by Piet Pompies on September 28 2008, 17:43 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| Alec bought the hype! Alec I hope you also learned a lesson: just because someone is making the most noise in town, are seen at all the right places, or because he is so slippery that he can slide uphill, does not make him credible. For what it's worth I think your assessment of the current situation is also wrong. You ask what happen to cause the change in Leigh. Perhaps he was always a crook. Perhaps you just didn't want to know that. So leave his "young family" out of this! Just like a lot of "smart" investors who invested pension money in CDS's, not because it was the right thing to do but because everyone was doing it, I think you bought Leigh's story because it sounded so nice. And then you sold it so your audience .... Any way, I don't think you're a bad guy. But you are inexperienced and your desire to market the next best thing contributed to your undoing. I suggest you consider the possibility introducing quality to your shows. And with that I don't mean running into the jaws of Investec or Old Mutual!! . .less by Chris on September 28 2008, 19:12 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| not only should he be unemployable, he should be incarcerated....... a thief is a thief is a thief. at least the guy with the balaclava and gun makes his intentions clear and you can act accordingly. by GungetsTuft on September 28 2008, 19:23 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| Developments of the Dealstream investigation Does anyone know where we can get more information of what is happening with getting the funds back to Dealstream clients? Or is RMB going to steal the monies that were on margin as well? There is a deafening silence on this front from the regulators and large institutions involved, are they all culpable? H . .less by Hannes Joubert on September 29 2008, 06:35 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| Alec, you need to stand up and take accountability! You punted DealStream and now you need to admit your mistake. Thanks in advance by Milkshakes Mshabalala on September 29 2008, 08:42 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| It saddens me that people lose money through their own greed and stupidity and then look to blame ot... Alec has brought some wonderful success stories to us, if it wasnĂ¢€™t for Alec few would know of Allan Grey, Piet Viljoen, John Biccard and many more who have brought brilliant and valuable insight to those who want to invest and not speculate. Take responsibility for your own actions if you cant then pay some one to invest for you. . .less by agnieman on September 29 2008, 09:09 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| Dont apologise for anything Alec You cant take responsinility for every commentator in town. They ar just that - COMMENTATORS. If these retards want to follow their advice, that is their problem. by Donkie on September 29 2008, 09:23 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| Unemployable... I guess he doesn't necessarily need employment since he appears to have helped himself to the funds of his investors. I was a Dealstream investor that divested some months ago when it became obvious that things were not all ok in the State of Dealstream. Dunno why or how anyone could have missed the obvious signs personally. . .less by Jarred on September 29 2008, 10:12 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| Would Russell have been a commentator if he had not bought advertising? Huh? by Watcher on September 29 2008, 10:21 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| dealstream i totally agree with some listerners , how can Alec be responsible for this ....how could he predict something like this would happen . It is up to the indiviual to do their own homework on who they invest with . Easy to blame someone else isnt it ??? . .less by robyn on September 29 2008, 10:33 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| does it matter? One has a brain in order to decide for oneself or are you a robot if you cant think for yourself then investing is not for you and rather leave it to someone else today and get on with standard five!! by beepbeep on September 29 2008, 10:34 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| advertising, what about fin24.com gambling advertising? Somebody has to opay the bills, you cannot vet every advertiser. I am sure most users of this site, also use 24.com. They run gambling advertising, I do not see to many people complaining about that. by subby on September 29 2008, 10:36 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| @ Greed And Stupidity Ummm Im not sure what you mean by "It saddens me that people lose money through their own greed and stupidity"... IF you are in the market which I suspect you are, then you are also by your own definition "Greedy and Stupid" You need to differentiate between bad trading and stealing... What you are saying is that people lost their money because they were trading in Ssfs and Cfds when this is most certainly Not the case, conversely what you are suggesting is that people who buy underlying shares Never lose their money, which is quite laughable. What happened to Dealstream Clients is that their Trust accounts with Investec were emptied by Russel Leigh and existing Margins on Shares in Companies You probably also have shares in, dissapeared. This doesnt make Dealstream clients stupid and greedy, it makes Russel Leigh a thief. I hope when you lose money, and believe me you will, you are not surrounded by people like yourself... . .less by J on September 29 2008, 10:57 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| Not Alecs Issue Many people start with the best of intentions and then things fall apart.This can happen to all of us,how you react is often unknown.Only when under pressure do you know how you will react.A good man/woman can become a gambler with other peoples money when things turn against them and finally when they lose it all they are thieves. How is Alec supposed to know things about people that they themselves don`t know. Of course you have thieves who premeditate their actions but even here it is difficult to pick up. The financial world is a jungle,trust seldom if at all and do your due diligence. . .less by aj on September 29 2008, 10:57 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| @It saddens me... Ummm Im not sure what you mean by "It saddens me that people lose money through their own greed and stupidity"... IF you are in the market which I suspect you are, then you are also by your own definition "Greedy and Stupid" You need to differentiate between bad trading and stealing... What you are saying is that people lost their money because they were trading in Ssfs and Cfds when this is most certainly Not the case, conversely what you are suggesting is that people who buy underlying shares Never lose their money, which is quite laughable. What happened to Dealstream Clients is that their Trust accounts with Investec were emptied by Russel Leigh and existing Margins on Shares in Companies You probably also have shares in, dissapeared. This doesnt make Dealstream clients stupid and greedy, it makes Russel Leigh a thief. What you are also suggesting is that all companies who deal with these instruments are going to clear out your bank account and run away... which is also ridiculous. I hope when you lose money, and believe me you will, you are not surrounded by people like yourself... . .less by J on September 29 2008, 11:06 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| gambling advertising But... If they had a commentator on how to play BlackJack???? by J on September 29 2008, 11:07 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| get a life how was moneyweb supposed to know if he is credable or not... you dont stink if you have bad intentions... on that point you dont even know if russell is even guilty of any crime. Lets assume he is innocent, and see what the outcome is.. in the mean time... get a life! . .less by rob on September 29 2008, 11:19 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| Commentry Vs Sanction Its not Alecs issue but it certainly is Moneywebs issue, moneyweb is an organisation, not just one man. Correct me if I'm wrong but moneywebs target ordience is the man in the street investor who wants to do it for himself. It is not a platform for advertising large funds and their fund managers. The advice given by moneyweb and its commentators is taken to heart... Moneyweb has on many an occasion told us "Stay away from company X" and guess what, we have. Once again you Have to diffirentiate between advice given by Commentators on the Show and Organisations they sanction... If David Shapiro says Investec is a steal at R70 (which he did) does by no means mean the company he works for is going to clear out your bank account., or that the 2010 fund is going to go bust. . .less by J on September 29 2008, 11:38 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| from the gul on 88 You asked about the differences between Dealstream and a normal Safex broker, like DWT Securities. I always ask people to just be aware of the extra risk when dealing with a CFD company like Dealstream or GT247. With a CFD company, your money is deposited directly into that company`s bank account, and the derivative transaction`s obligations are between you and that company. Your money is pooled with all other client`s money. So there is always the risk of the CFD company not being able to pay you out any profits, or even paying back your margin amounts. This is not just a theoretical risk, but very real when we know that GT247`s British concern, and now Dealstream, going bankrupt, with clients losing their money. In the case of a Safex broker, this is not possible to happen. Because: The counterparty to all transactions is the JSE - Safex. and not DWT. Your margin deposits are held by our Clearing bank, Absa, in your own name - never are the money part of DWT`s accounts. I the unlikely event that something happens that places DWT as broker in default with Safex, your Safex account will just be transferred by Safex to another broker, and you will carry on as normal . .less by surething on September 29 2008, 11:44 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| Who is all too blame Reps Haras you till you buy their Trade analising software, They open the acount for you at Dealstream. You trust them as they asure you that your money's safe as it is in an investec acount. So who is really to blame for many of the clients losing their money. Its companies like Capital Equities. If they do not follow it up and fight for their clients we will and must take them on as individuals. You can not invest about seven hundred peoples money without checking if the company your investing it with is creditable. Most of the customers do not have a clue about trading when they open these acounts. Yes you are told that you could lose money if your trades go against you but not that you could lose it due to a fly by nite company. . .less by "P'd" of Trader - Durban on September 29 2008, 14:15 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| Alec - can you help us out in understanding all of this? I still like the idea of investing in CFD's, since they give divident exposure that an SSF doesn't. It seems though that they are inherently more risky for the companies offering them. Why is this? Is it because someone has to take a contrary position or hedge themselves when I go long on a share? If there is a risk for the companies, should we be concerned about some of hte bigger name players like Nedbank, STB or PSG? Regards . .less by Jack on September 29 2008, 14:52 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| Barings Bank vs Dealstream This appear to be another Barings Bank and Nick Leeson escapade. Only difference is that Russel had far more power over controls in Dealstream than Nick ever had. Whilst Nick went to jail, his initial actions wasnt so much theft but more of a cover up in the hope that the markets will turn and he can restore the whole position. We all know what happened to Barings subsequently. Russel most likely did exactly that! With the past few weeks volatility he most likely used the customers cash resources to fund the companies counterparty obligations in the interim with the intention of making it right when it turns (By no means defendable!). As with Nick, Russel most likely did not set out to defraud his customers but ended up still committing fraud. For his actions Nick went to jail, wrote a book and became a celebrity. Has anyone checked with the Saxon to see if Russel's there busy writing his book? Hope Russel gets prosecuted, and no, I wont be buying his book..... . .less by JohnnyCash on September 29 2008, 14:54 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| Lodge your details of Loss on WWW.TROUBLEATDEALSTREAM.CO.ZA HI ALL, PLEASE VISIT THE FOLLOWING WEBSITE WE HAVE REGISTERED WE FOR PERSONS WHO HAVE SUFFERED A LOSS: WWW.TROUBLEATDEALSTREAM.CO.ZA ONCE WE HAVE SEEKED LEGAL ADVICE IF THERE IS A WAY FORWARD LEGALLY, WE WILL REPRESENT THOSE . .more WHO HAVE PROVIDED THE WEBSITE WITH THERE DETAILS. THNX . .less . .less by Louis Fitz-gibbon on September 29 2008, 14:55 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| Louis Fitz-gibbon Louis you are vermin scum. stop praying on people who have already lost their savings. There will be 1c in the R in a liquidation and here you are trying to get these poor people to cough up for your benefit. back off. Have you even considered that there may be so little left that the parties to the liquidation have to pay in? Duh... . .less by liquidation lawyer on September 29 2008, 16:15 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| CFD's how does it really work? I think that if we knew how CFD's really worked we wouls have maby thought twice about how much money we would like to trade. I enjoy trading CFD's and know that you kan make money or lose money if your not disiplined enough. The problem is that we were not told that it worked like a big Casino. Everything looked real , but there were no real trades done. The trades were just between us and Dealstream. They just promises to pay the difference if your shares went up. They never really bought the shares. They could buy whatever shares they want as long as they made money to pay us. The problem is we were never told this. Do you think they really wanted us to make money , no they would have had to pay us not from out shares but from their trades. If I knew that I would have traded smaller and moved my profits out into my personal acount so if anything happened I proberbly wouldnt have lost any of my own money. I feel that investec should have had us sighn a form informing us that our money has been put int 'another' companys gambelling account. They can not tell me that they did'nt know how Dealstream worked. . .less by P'd off Trader - Durban on September 29 2008, 16:32 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| @ Piet Pompies My boet, you should READ your own reference re "Broken Windows": "[The] experiment provides NO SUPPORT for a simple first-order disorder-crime relationship as hypothesized by Wilson and Kelling, NOR that broken windows policing is the optimal use of scarce law enforcement resources. " Dumb, dumber, pompies... . .less by Zee on September 29 2008, 16:57 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
| Response to liquidation lawyer Hi, 1stly i myself have lost lots of money in this ordeal. 2ndly no funds are being requested from any party in order to assess the way forward. 3rdly there may be no way forward but if there is, we wont be swayed by persons with your type of thinking. We want persons who will collectively want to see and ensure that the relevent parties answer for what has happend and the truth be revealed. Whoever that relevent party is i do understand that you may not fall into this category of person. . .less by Louis Fitz-Gibbon on September 29 2008, 19:06 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Sigh - FSB / Dealstream...
12:58PM, Wednesday, 24 Sep, 2008
Get a cup of coffee or a Spice Gold and Coke because this is going to be a LONG rant...
When I originally wrote the piece about the FSB's role in the Dealstream saga, I wrote it from the perspective of an insulted financial journalist.
I felt it was very inappropriate for a head of department at the FSB not to have all the details of the Dealstream collapse to hand - especially if it was his department that was supposed to be investigating the company's licence and it subsequent collapse.
What it says to me is that there are executives within the Financial Services Board that don't read the financial press and don't actually know what is happening in the financial sector...
If that is the case, then they can't complain when the industry they are supposed to regulate turns around and keeps calling it 'toothless'.
Since Monday, traders and financial services professionals have begun pointing fingers at various parties including the JSE (read CFDs not to blame), the CFDs market-makers, Rand Merchant Bank (as the counterparty to Dealstream's trades), Investec as the bank holding the funds of Dealstream clients and the FSB for its lack of regulatory oversight.
A large part of the FSB's mandate is to assist participants in various financial markets - including investments - to make informed decisions about identifying reliable and trustworthy custodians of their money.
Earlier this year, the FSB acted very quickly following an investigation from Fin24.com to shut down a "one-man band" trader who was offering unbelievable returns using a combination of sports betting and futures trading instruments and asking for investments of a few thousand rands from 'clients'.
Yet in Dealstream's instance, the company was a highly publicised operation sponsoring a number of high-profile financial portals and regularly being asked to provide market commentary on radio shows. They advertised freely and had nice offices in larny Melrose Arch, so they certainly weren't ducking and diving. The company was also holding far larger sums of money, including R30m of Vox Telecom shareholder and staff funds.
According to Fin24.com's discussions with various players - including the JSE's director of trading Allan Thomson, Global Trader CEO Charles Savage and the local stockbroking community - there are two core areas where the FSB was responsible for reviewing an operation such as Dealstream.
Firstly, to operate a trading and investing platform, you need to be a registered financial services provider (FSP) with the FSB. There is no question that Dealstream has an FSP number (29 541 according the FSB website).
The record has, however, been marked as "cancelled".
The FSB knew about Dealstream - unquestionably.
Thomson of the JSE also confirmed that the bourse had been in regular correspondence with Dealstream for nearly two years regarding Dealstream’s misrepresentation that the 'unregulated' CFD products were backed by the JSE's 'regulated' single-stock futures instruments.
As the body supposedly regulating the operation of both Dealstream and the JSE, the FSB could have intervened in such a dispute. At this point, questions could have been asked about Dealstream's operation.
Personally, I don't buy this line. If Fin24.com was to run a big banner across the top of the site saying "endorsed by the JSE" based on the fact that Russell Loubser happened to have invited us for some sarmies at one of his presentations, David and Hayley would be fielding lawyers letters demanding we change it.
Surely the JSE and/or FSB would have been alerted to the fact that Dealstream was not registered over that period of time?
Then again, maybe not... If the regulator's members don't read the financial press, perhaps their knowledge IS limited to the place they bank at and the insurance company they use.
The inability to identify that Dealstream was not in fact a regulated FSP led to a second issue which was potentially more damaging - the segregation of client funds from proprietary trading accounts and operational cash flow.
Both Thomson and Savage confirmed that it was industry practice to segregate client funds from other activities to prevent them losing should the trading company go under.
With Vox CEO Doug Reed telling his staff they can assume that any funds they held at Dealstream are "gone", Investec telling Dealstream customers that they cannot withdraw funds from the account it held on behalf of Dealstream and counterparty Rand Merchant Bank placing the entire Dealstream book in default on Tuesday, this would not appear to be the case.
Now that I'm on a roll, I'd like to conclude with three other questions:
1. Is anybody going to take Vox management to task on the fact that at least R30m of shareholder and staff money was sitting with an unlicensed financial services firm? Vox is a telecommunications company - NOT a derivatives trading business - and shareholders should ask why they should carry the can for this decision and why they should see 35% of their equity price get wiped out.
2. I THINK I understand Investec's role in this and we need to be very clear that the commercial relationship is between Dealstream and Investec, not Investec and Dealstream clients. HOWEVER, the client money in these accounts didn't just dry up in a day - it was purposefully removed; surely a flag was raised if this account was serving as a "trust" account.
3. Ernst and Young (a highly reputable auditing firm) - through Argil - was a primary investor in this business. If you are telling me that an auditor approved the structures discussed above then I'm worried. As the venture capitalist, E&Y may argue that it was its money to lose. Unfortunately, as Vox and many other clients will tell you, it wasn't. UPDATED - 2008/09/27: My criticism of the FSB drew a few grumbles which will probably be covered somewhere else. However, to the FSB's credit they have acted to address the 'flaw' that I mentioned. They have now changed the FSB system for cancelled licenses to now read = "This FSP number has been cancelled and therefore the entity is not allowed to render financial services in terms of the Financial Advisory and Intermediary Services Act".... Chalk one up for the good guys??UPDATED re point 3:I believe that Ernst & Young have distanced themselves from Dealstream and Argil saying they sold out of their minority interest in this business. I don't' totally buy this response either because Saul Cohen who was being quoted in the press regarding Argil's investment in Ernst and Young. Saul Cohen and Paul Dixon both continue to have e-mail addresses linked to Ernst and Young. I notice that the Argil site has been taken down in the interim.
Traders to sue Dealstream
Sep 26 2008 5:27PM
Marc Ashton
Johannesburg - Traders who have been hit in the pocket by the demise of derivatives trading company Dealstream are banding together to take legal action against those involved in the company's collapse.
This was confirmed to Fin24.com by Louis Fitz-Gibbon, a former client of the failed derivatives trader.
He and other traders have opened a website, troubleatdealstream.co.za, inviting former clients to record their details and to help them "get the answers we as investors deserve".
Fitz-Gibbon said he had received correspondence from other former clients adding that some of the e-mails received in which the monies lost had been outlined "are really cause for concern".
Following "technical difficulties" experienced by clients last week, the Melrose Arch-based derivatives trader closed its doors.
In the process, clients found their accounts had been pilfered, and listed companies such as Vox Telecom and Control Instruments confirmed that they had suffered financial losses in both professional and private trading capacities.
Rand Merchant Bank (RMB) - the counterparty to the transactions - found itself in possession of R1bn worth of listed equities.
It is believed that the decline in Vox Telecom's share price is a result of RMB unloading Vox shares onto the open market to clear its position.
Vox Telecom's share price has more than halved since last Friday; since hitting a high of R2.25 it has declined to R1.05.
- Fin24.com
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warren on 2008/09/27 04:23:44 PM - dealstream stole my dream Great, lets get all the thiefs at Dealstream and Investec see www.dealstreamfraud.blogspot.com too for all your info. Its very informative too
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Giacomo on 2008/09/27 12:21:31 PM - Investec in cahoots with Dealstream I HAve trust money banked at INVESTEC and this was a account opened with them also through dealstream in my own name with a segrigated account nunber given to me by investec THEY HAVE NO MANDATE ON THIS ACCOUNT to transfer any kind of money out of it.as this was purely a savings account and only deposited money here to get the interest earned. I CHALLANGE investec to get passed this one , SHOW ME A MADATE that gives dealstream or Investec permision to move money on my behalve from this account. I signed no mandate for this account INVESTEC GIVE BACK MY initial deposit of 1 million plus interest and savings
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Kevin Yeh on 2008/09/27 08:56:10 AM - Dealstream Action Group Affected clients are also welcome to email to me, kyeh@worldonline.co.za, for further information. Currently we have 10 people in our group.
SAFEX website...
Notices and Circulars
23 September 2008 - F1847 - Default of Member - Dealstream Securities (Pty) Ltd
ie they were a member
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Wheelin and Dealstreamin
Market volatility claimed its first South African victim when Dealstream, a brokerage that dealt in derivatives, closed its doors.
The collapse of Dealstream will not pose a risk to the South African banking system, but investors with accounts at the brokerage may lose their cash.
The problems started late last Friday when Dealstream's clearing member for single stock futures, Rand Merchant Bank (RMB), realised Dealstream had outstanding margin calls.
Not enough in account
This means Dealstream did not have enough money in its account with RMB to honour the trades it was putting through the market. Because RMB is a JSE member and trades in single stock futures are guaranteed, RMB's exposure is not material."We're covered in terms of the initial margins. We'll use that to close positions," Braam van Heerden, head of equity trading at RMB said yesterday. "We will limit the blow as much as possible for Dealstream's clients."
RMB had ensured no new trading contracts could be opened with Dealstream and the JSE and the Financial Services Board (FSB) moved yesterday to investigate the matter and protect investors.
Allan Thomson, a director at the JSE said part of the problem was that Dealstream had been trading contracts for difference (CFDs). A CFD is an over the counter trading instrument that allows people to trade on a stock without delivery of that stock.
"Bet between two guys at the pub"
Trading CFDs is "like a bet between two guys at the pub", according to Thomson, and those bets are neither regulated nor guaranteed."Dealstream must make good its losses to RMB and transfer what it can if there's any surplus cash from winding down RMB's exposure. I don't know if there will be sufficient money for Dealstream to give any back to clients," Thomson said. "But we keep telling the market to please be aware that when you take on a CFD you are taking on that company's credit risk."
The JSE had tried to communicate with Dealstream about onselling CFDs. On Dealstream's website the company says all of its CFDs were essentially single stock futures held at the JSE, "providing the client a secure instrument regulated by the JSE", but this statement appears to have been untrue.
Thomson was clear yesterday that neither the JSE nor RMB would bear any of the liability.
Thomson said if Dealstream's clients had just registered their respective positions as single stock futures contracts with the JSE, the contracts would have been transferred to a another member and their positions and funds would have been secured.
"Not many people are aware that Lehman Brothers held very large single stock futures positions on the South African Futures Exchange. Because these contracts were registered on the JSE, the clients were simply transferred to another member and did not lose their positions or their investment when Lehman Brothers went under," Thomson said.
Elmarie Kruger, manager of capital markets at the FSB, said yesterday the FSB's investigation into Dealstream would not take long. She said that the brokerage's failure was not directly related to the subprime debacle.
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South Africa: Trouble at Dealstream
23 September, 2008, Extracts from MoneyWeb and Miningmx
Dealstream is one of South Africa’s largest Contracts For Differences ("CFD") traders and, in this capacity, it has concluded many over-the-counter ("OTC") CFD’s with its clients.
Clients of Dealstream are concerned after the company's trading system went down last week. Calls placed to the derivatives broker and its CEO Russell Leigh went unanswered Monday morning. A visit to Dealstream's offices in Melrose Arch confirmed there was no one there.
The company is run by Russell Leigh, a regular market commentator for many of the financial publications. The company includes Argil Venture Capital (Argil) as an investor. Argil is a fund manager owned by auditing firm Ernst & Young Southern Africa and Worldwide African Investment Holdings. Argil's first fund is an innovation and technology fund, which was launched with R100m in investment capital.
"As the contracts signed were over-the-counter contracts between Dealstream and its clients that are neither concluded on the JSE nor regulated by the JSE in terms of its rules, neither Rand Merchant Bank nor the JSE will be liable for Dealstream's failure to meet its commitments to its clients," Allan Thomson, the JSE's head of derivatives trading, said in a statement.
"What is disconcerting is the lack of information from the company," said one investor who contacted Miningmx.
According to one investor, warning flags were raised last week: "Last Wednesday afternoon the system was online but trades were not going through. Dealstream said it would enter them for us but one could not see if trades went through or not. Thursday was the same. By Friday afternoon, the system went offline 'due to technical difficulties' and this morning the site remained offline."
Rand Merchant Bank (RMB), a division of FirstRand Bank Ltd, is the clearing member for the SAFEX activities of Dealstream Securities (Pty) Ltd. In terms of this relationship, Dealstream is required to post margins with RMB in respect of their open trades.
In terms of the JSE Derivative Rules, RMB has placed Dealstream in default as they are unable to fully reinstate their minimum margin requirements. Dealstream's transactions on the JSE were for their own account. Dealstream does not have any clients registered on the JSE and did not conclude transactions on the JSE on behalf of clients. As a result of this, Dealstream's clients do not have any recourse to RMB in respect of their transactions with Dealstream.
Clients familiar to the situations are claiming that money that was deposited into Investec trust accounts was used by Dealstream improperly. Dealstream had power of attorney over trust money. This money was meant to be used to fund clients' losses when trades moved against them. However, clients say that money was removed from the trust accounts by Dealstream even when there was no need to access it. This means that clients stand to lose millions. Reed estimates that he and fellow employees have together lost about R112m in their personal capacities.
What the money was used for remains uncertain. However, it has been speculated that it was being used to fund positions held by Dealstream in Vox Telecom and Simmers & Jack Mines (JSE:SIM). Investec head of investor relations Ursula Nobrega said she could not confirm the balances were zero. She cited client confidentiality. Since 8 September 2008, Simmers & Jack Mines has lost 33% of its market value, falling from a high of 399c to 260c. The share price has subsequently rebounded 5.6% or 15c during trade on Monday on the back of stronger equity markets. Over the same period, the Vox Telecom share price has moved significantly. Since the 8th, the share price has moved from a low of 198c to hit a high of 225c. On Thursday last week the share traded down around 5% (10c) and lost another 9% (20c) on Monday to trade at 200c.
Nobrega said at all times Investec was acting on behalf of Dealstream. She says Dealstream clients were not clients of Investec. Reed recounts how he met with Dealstream CEO Russell Leigh on Sunday after he heard rumours of troubles at the derivatives broker.
"We actually believed him," said Reed. "He convinced us that everything was absolutely safe." Leigh apparently showed Reed printouts of trust accounts, reflecting that his money was safe. However, when news of Dealstream's problems broke on Monday morning, Reed realised he had been fed false information.
He says he managed to confirm that most of the trust accounts held by Dealstream with Investec had zero balances. Leigh appears to have gone to ground. He is not answering his cellphone. Saul Cohen, a spokesperson for Argil, a shareholder in Dealstream, says its offices were vacated after a client threatened employees with violence.
Alpino says he contacted Investec last week, who confirmed that certain trust account balances were zero. Dealstream's clearing house RMB has assumed responsibility for its open trades on the JSE. This happened after Dealstream failed to meet its obligations to RMB.




Has nobody blamed the JSE who firstly didnt follow through. It was too late for the FSB to react once defaults and cracks started. Anyway a question I would like to ask is how can an investor (individually, or through intermediaries) not be actively involved by asking for quarterly reports? Or is it typical of the new age brokers/advisors who take their cut to just disappear and move on to the next investor to rip off. Its also sad how these businessmen can just leave and not get punished. I see this as worse than murder because you have changes the socio-economic wellbeing of thousands. Anyway Im just here to be informed by these forums (and Mark's and fin24 journalists)